An excerpt from a brand new e-book concerning the 2024 presidential election shed new gentle on how former Vice President Kamala Harris’ proposed interview with podcast big Joe Rogan fell aside.
“Battle: Contained in the Wildest Battle for The White Home,” from authors Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes, offered a play-by-play of negotiations between the Rogan and Harris camps to safe Harris’ look on the podcast. The dialogue proved fruitless and price the ex-vice president’s marketing campaign, particularly as then-candidate Donald Trump secured a Rogan interview that went viral.
“Trump spent three hours with Rogan in an interview that immediately went viral. The distinction amounted to a ‘traumatic occasion,’ mentioned one Harris aide, ‘that I’ll always remember.’”
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Rogan confirmed in late October – simply after publishing his sit-down with Trump – that he had been in negotiations with the Harris group for an interview, noting that talks had come to face nonetheless due to Harris’ calls for. On the time, he expressed that he was nonetheless open to a future interview, and relayed that the Harris camp hadn’t canceled both.Â
Following the Trump’s election victory, Harris’ group recommended that the president’s interview was the issue that killed negotiations.Â
“We have been hoping to suit it in round that however in the end weren’t in a position to do it,” Harris marketing campaign senior advisor Stephanie Cutter mentioned on “Pod Save America.” “Because it seems, that was the day that Trump was taping his Joe Rogan [appearance], which that they had by no means confirmed to us. We simply sort of figured that out within the lead-up to it.”
Rogan went on to endorse then-candidate Trump on the eve of the election.Â
The part from “Battle” shed extra gentle on what occurred, alleging that preliminary negotiations held between Harris deputy marketing campaign supervisor Rob Flaherty and Rogan’s reps have been rocky. In response to the e-book, Rogan despatched them his record of interview situations on Oct. 11, which included, “no workers within the studio, no matter restrictions, and Harris must signal a waiver.”
Moreover, “Harris must come to Austin, Texas,” based on the Rogan group, although they signaled there was some slight leeway on this situation.
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The Harris marketing campaign responded, saying that “Harris could be glad to speak about social media censorship, weed, and different points they thought could be of most curiosity to his listeners.” Nevertheless, Rogan disagreed.
Because the e-book mentioned, “Joe simply needs to speak concerning the economic system, the border, and abortion.”
Then the dispute over the place Harris would meet Rogan ensued. Flaherty proposed an interview in Michigan, the place the then-vice president could be on the marketing campaign path. “No-go, the Rogan group mentioned after reaching the host on a weeklong looking journey. Austin or nothing,” Parnes and Allen wrote.Â
In response to their e-book, “Harris had lower than zero purpose to be in Texas,” as “she was in battleground-or-bust mode.”
“Plus, a detour to Texas may scent like desperation to the press and a waste of cash to donors,” the authors additionally famous.Â
Apparently, Harris marketing campaign chief Jennifer O’Malley Dillon discovered an answer, telling Rogan’s group that Harris would journey “to Houston for a rally—beneath the quilt of visiting a state with one of many nation’s most restrictive abortion legal guidelines—to place her in proximity to Austin” the place she might go on the present.Â
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Harris flew to the state beneath the auspices of preventing for reproductive rights, although Allen and Parnes wrote, “Just a few individuals knew the actual purpose: the entire Houston rally was constructed to place her in proximity to Rogan.”
Regardless of Harris making this concession, Rogan’s group had extra calls for that appeared to doom the assembly. When Flaherty talked about Harris going to Rogan’s studio on Oct. 25, they dodged once more.Â
“Want we had identified about this sooner, as a result of he has the twenty fifth blocked out as a private day,” the Rogan group mentioned.Â
When Flaherty countered with Saturday morning, the podcast host’s individuals replied, “Provided that it’s earlier than 8:30 a.m.” The excerpt appeared to counsel that message all however killed the talks between the 2 camps. The e-book alleged that shortly afterward, the Harris camp came upon that Rogan spoke with Trump on his “private day.”Â
The work talked about that Harris aides “made a remaining stab, providing to let Rogan discuss with the vp in Washington, D.C.” Nevertheless, “Rogan’s group balked, citing the Austin-only situation.” Allen and Parnes quoted Flaherty telling Rogan’s individuals, “You get one journey to Texas inside three weeks of the election. You don’t get two.”
Reps for Harris’ marketing campaign didn’t instantly reply to Fox Information Digital’s request for remark.Â
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